Sorry for delaying this project quite a bit...I have been going through some personal matters lately this month I can't explain but I tried to remix the song recently but it didn't sound great afterwards, I'm not really good at remixing other peoples music especially orchestral based but I'm learning. I probably won't be doing music much anymore either since my internet is still crap and I can't afford to fix it yet, I can only wish you guys luck on your projects ahead.
No problem at all, do what you have to do, dj. Take all the time you need punk, no rush. Don't be afraid to get a little weird with those verses, either. The way they were left on my end is pretty open to interpretation, just a simple two chord type deal. I can hear it becoming predictable in a traditionally-poppy way very quickly, don't be afraid to take it in any odd direction you like, you could fart in the mix if you wanted to, anything to get it sounding exciting and different.
I did have a chance to check out the collab soundfont and it sounds amazing so far! Punk the vocal sounds in preset 92 perc, specifically on notes B2 and Bb2 can be used to make a new desert temple theme for zelda U I thought and Pad:Space Arpeg could be used for some silent hill-esque music. Overall great stuff, did some sounds come from SC-88 or? Just curious.
Edit: Do you perhaps have an updated version of that sound that plays in Majora's Masks Stone Tower Temple Illusion theme? It plays in the beginning intro after the wind and percussion starts playing and sounds like a bunch of high pitched synths mashed together.
Last Edit: Jun 28, 2015 20:54:38 GMT -5 by dj4uk6cjm
Thanks, also if any of you guys have any vocal samples that sound like this kontakt VST (they have demos to listen) add them to the soundfont or let me know. Could use some more middle eastern stuff like that and I'll try to add more cool stuff to the soundfont as well when my internet gets better.
Last Edit: Jun 29, 2015 12:08:50 GMT -5 by dj4uk6cjm
I've used a few of them, Sonokinetic's Desert Voice, Tigris and Euphrates, and Soundiron Voice of Gaia: Strawberry come to mind. They work well when you really need an off-the-cuff eastern sound, such as in the following: youtu.be/edy0XfO8PTA?t=4m16s
But I've found they aren't quite as versatile as they perhaps could be, not for any particular fault in the libraries or the quality of the performances or anything, but for how specific a sound the vocal performances have, which of course isn't necessarily a bad thing at all. All in all, there are really only so many realistic uses for eastern vocals in non-eastern music, in my experience.
For example, you can lift the female breath vocal bit from this,: youtu.be/kj2j5Z6pITE?t=11s And re-use it in a completely different context here: youtu.be/h1mD-_DKHc0?t=2m44s (the toms and some various percussion from this piece are also included in the collaboration soundfont, I believe)
And the samples work quite well in both songs, because of that versatility. I can certainly add a few middle eastern vocal samples like those manipulated in different ways here and there to the soundfont, if you'd like. The vocals on patch #93 PERC are from the following - several of them were recorded through a water bottle: youtu.be/vyrpRzdvp5U?t=5m24s
Last Edit: Jun 29, 2015 20:30:48 GMT -5 by exciter
Cool! I can't view those videos you linked being with my slow internet and all but that would be nice of you to add any middle eastern instruments you have/find into the soundfont and I really like that perc preset btw, did you make it? Its wonderful.
I did, I'm glad you like the samples, perhaps I should have included more. Most of them are from old songs like those in one form or another. You'll recognize a lot of the sounds in the collaboration soundfont in these example songs if you get the chance to listen to them. I like to maintain a little bit of continuity between the old and new by layering in samples I've used previously in different ways with new sounds, so I keep a library of these old samples on hand. Lots of interesting samples to be heard. Kitchenware percussives, scissor hi-hats, hammer-against-steel snares, refrigerator sounds, toilets flushing, the list goes on. You'd be surprised how well obscure sounds like these fit in with new compositions.
I can't seem to find a interesting way to extend on this. It's not that its bad or anything, its just I lack an imagination when it comes to other peoples compositions. I feel bad for saying that because it seems that I'm holding everything up. Your intention to detail far exceeds mine. I guess that's why I'm having trouble finding a innovative way to keep this composition going. I haven't been feeling "music" as of late either. Could be another problem. Perhaps we should take the main melody and make our own interesting mixes using the melody as a main point in the song but totally opposite styles. For instance, mine and yours are mostly opposites from one another. And if DJ wants to come back in at some point, he'd take that melody and put it in his own composition. I'd very much like to hear yours once its done.
Would this idea work out? I think it'd be better for all of us in the long run. If we decide to do more of this in the future, maybe we'd set more limits so it doesn't become too complex for each of us.
Last Edit: Jul 4, 2015 15:15:16 GMT -5 by punk7890™
I'm kinda glad you said that because I've been loosing a lot of inspiration lately myself, that and my internet situation. I'm using my phones internet and the 4g broke on it last month (stuck in a 2g cycle on a 4g data plan) so I haven't been able to upload or download anything which sucks since my main inspiration is from downloading new royalty free samples/soundfonts on my favorite sites, I'm trying to get it fixed somehow though as I can't afford a replacement or another new phone right now at the moment and I sure don't want to sign up for internet service such as time warner cable when mine was so good as is before it went bad...so for now I can only load webpages and that's it. I did try to make 2 new songs this week though, one a beach theme (fan made) for Super Mario Galaxy 3/Donkey Kong Jungle Beat 2 using both games predecessors samples and the other song a fan one, that desert theme I was talking about for zelda U using exciters voice samples (that reminds me, do any of you guys have updated samples from OoT's spirit temple theme? Would appreciate it) I know how to make them, its just I can't really feel the heart and soul into them yet I guess is what I'm saying lol I got a few short notes down for both midis if you guys would like me to share. They're so small so my internet shouldn't bug me about it.
Last Edit: Jul 5, 2015 8:59:23 GMT -5 by dj4uk6cjm
That's a fine idea, not a problem at all, I have bouts of lack of inspiration myself once in awhile. Focus is something that comes and goes. I often sit down and reject nearly every idea I'm able to think of when working on a song. If it doesn't somehow elicit a certain emotion from me or give off a particularly moving atmosphere, I reject it and move on. Spending months on a small handful of songs at a time is completely common.
I find I work best when I'm in a bad mood, as I'm able to remove myself from other things, sit down, and simply blast out a part or two that can be worked on without distraction. So far as finding inspiration, one or two really cool sounds can definitely get things going, it can be as simple as trying out a new instrument, effect, VST, or whatever you have available to you, and manipulating it in different ways. I recommend starting small, just a simple little drum loop, run it through a saturator, flanger, chorus, or any effects processor carelessly, try to get a feel for something interesting by going through the tried-and-true work method. I've entertained myself just by recording funny mouth noises and processing them in different ways as percussive elements. Fills from Blasphemous Rumours for example are just samples of marbles being dropped down a staircase played at a higher pitch:
I am the same way mostly. I feel like I take forever to finish a song. Even now I have around 4 in progress. I mostly just pluck away at them when I'm in that songs mood again. I try and not preemptively tackle that song if I'm not in it's correct mindset. I adore coming across samples that give inspiration, or even artwork.