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Post by bobbotheclown on Nov 13, 2012 4:27:26 GMT -5
jesus christ nothings working.
not even pj64.
havent tried anything that its obvious would work yet.
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Post by bobbotheclown on Nov 13, 2012 5:30:38 GMT -5
you are probably right.
but at least yours wasn't left out if a barn for a year by your uncle's friend's ex-wife. who happens to live down the street.
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Post by bobbotheclown on Nov 13, 2012 6:18:44 GMT -5
true. was more video issues where there shouldnt be issues. had smooth FPS.
figured out the video card doesn't run openGL. or at least it crashed on all opengl plugins for pj64.
you can't update the drivers. dunno why. nvidia doesnt even list the card in their legacy software.
nvidia geforce4 mx 4000?
ill reinstall pj64 and post a screenshot later.
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Post by bobbotheclown on Nov 13, 2012 8:07:20 GMT -5
damn it.
i did. and didnt find that.
was already installed. tempted to get the beta version
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Post by bobbotheclown on Nov 13, 2012 8:50:41 GMT -5
kk updated. no noticeable change. but im trying other games and it seems the issue is zelda specific. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 12:41:50 GMT -5
The OpenGL plugins for PJ64 only work if you have an NVidia graphics card, otherwise they crash the emulator.
Since you're running on an older graphics card which is most likely incompatible with the current version of DirectX, I would google for and install DX6, increase your paging file, and use Rice's plugin. It may not be as perfect as Jabo's, but it still works great.
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Post by bobbotheclown on Nov 13, 2012 17:11:18 GMT -5
lol, get a better graphics card, on that matter get a better computer! already got one. just wanted to convert this computer into an emulator box. was gonna install mame. no idea how to use it.
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Post by bobbotheclown on Nov 13, 2012 19:11:18 GMT -5
i think im going to start modding super mario 64 on this computer since it runs perfectly.
and so does sketchup.
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Post by xdaniel on Nov 13, 2012 19:22:41 GMT -5
Don't try to install an older DirectX under Windows XP. XP came with 8.1 originally and can be updated to 9.0c. If you can even install DX6, you're more likely to mess up the installation than have it work right.
As for the situation in general: I take it this is an old XP installation, not a fresh one, right? If so, I would take note of the serial number used with the existing XP install (if there's no serial sticker on the machine's case), and then just reinstall XP, all updates and drivers, and whatever programs you need from scratch. Then you won't have any old program or driver remnants left, and you'll know for sure what's on the machine, what drivers in what versions, etc., which should make any eventual troubleshooting easier.
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Post by bobbotheclown on Nov 14, 2012 1:03:00 GMT -5
probably going to install ubuntu then.
no cd keys on a custom case. must have been a sick ass box in its day.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 1:13:26 GMT -5
Don't try to install an older DirectX under Windows XP. XP came with 8.1 originally and can be updated to 9.0c. Windows XP didn't come with DX8. I know this for a fact because I first started using GameMaker (version 6) when I was on a an XP desktop and had to install DX8 first. I was using 3 computers at the time, so I kept both the DX8 offline installer and GM6 on a cd. Besides that, what Window's XP can / can't support doesn't matter. What matters is what his graphics card can support. If I'm not mistaken, DX8 & DX9 introduced shaders, which older cards are incapable of rendering. I had a laptop before that came with WinXP but the graphics card didn't support shaders, so wherever they were used just appeared black. Even worse, if I tried to install DX9 it crashed the pc and I had to reinstall the operating system to fix it. If you can even install DX6, you're more likely to mess up the installation than have it work right. You must think bobo is too stupid to find the 'Next' button on an installation wizard... As for the situation in general: I take it this is an old XP installation, not a fresh one, right? If so, I would take note of the serial number used with the existing XP install (if there's no serial sticker on the machine's case), and then just reinstall XP, all updates and drivers, and whatever programs you need from scratch. Then you won't have any old program or driver remnants left, and you'll know for sure what's on the machine, what drivers in what versions, etc., which should make any eventual troubleshooting easier. OR. You could just go to your start menu and click "Windows Update", and go to the control panel->hardware to see what versions your drivers are (if he even needs that info for anything) You're making things way harder than they have too be -_- EDIT: Btw, if you want to get rid of any junk left over by your progs, just download PC tuneup or something like it. There's hundreds of utilities to clean out your registries, remove temp files, and generally optimise your pc.
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Post by bobbotheclown on Nov 14, 2012 3:00:40 GMT -5
thanks both of you?
oddly enough it already has directX 9.0c
he may not have been implying i was too stupid to run the installation wizard. he may have been implying it didnt work a lot of the time.
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Post by bobbotheclown on Nov 14, 2012 4:41:37 GMT -5
could dual boot it for windows programs.
probably going to.
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Post by bobbotheclown on Nov 14, 2012 9:04:11 GMT -5
aight.
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Post by xdaniel on Nov 14, 2012 9:05:48 GMT -5
Windows XP didn't come with DX8. I know this for a fact because I first started using GameMaker (version 6) when I was on a an XP desktop and had to install DX8 first. I was using 3 computers at the time, so I kept both the DX8 offline installer and GM6 on a cd. Besides that, what Window's XP can / can't support doesn't matter. What matters is what his graphics card can support. If I'm not mistaken, DX8 & DX9 introduced shaders, which older cards are incapable of rendering. I had a laptop before that came with WinXP but the graphics card didn't support shaders, so wherever they were used just appeared black. Even worse, if I tried to install DX9 it crashed the pc and I had to reinstall the operating system to fix it. " Windows XP shipped with DirectX 8.1 which brings major new features to DirectX Graphics[...]" - and disregarding that and the release list in the DirectX article itself, I am quite sure the last time I had to use DX6 was on Windows 95 or 98, and DX7 on 98 or 2000. Also, newer DX versions should work perfectly fine with older cards. If anything, the card's drivers should tell software what the card is capable of, which in turn should prevent programs from even trying to use shaders. In fact - as you like to throw them around too - I also had a GeForce 4 MX myself once, and that was on XP which, as we've learned, shipped with 8.1. Hell, I may have even had 9.0c on it. You must think bobo is too stupid to find the 'Next' button on an installation wizard... No, I must think the DX installer is intelligent enough to detect the existing DX version and prevents installation if a newer one is installed. OR. You could just go to your start menu and click "Windows Update", and go to the control panel->hardware to see what versions your drivers are (if he even needs that info for anything) You're making things way harder than they have too be -_- EDIT: Btw, if you want to get rid of any junk left over by your progs, just download PC tuneup or something like it. There's hundreds of utilities to clean out your registries, remove temp files, and generally optimise your pc. Stuff like TuneUp isn't a perfect cure-all. They do not catch everything, they do not restore the system to a state anywhere close to a fresh install. Those programs are good for what they are - cleaning up a working system -, but if the system exhibits more severe problems or is unstable or whatever, they won't help. Again, a fact: my mom kept loading installs of XP with toolbars, scareware and such, which compromised stability to the point that removing the stuff either didn't help anymore or was way too time-consuming compared to just formatting the HDD and reinstalling the OS. I'm glad she's not doing that anymore, or at least not to that extend. And I'm starting to understand why certain other people have such a low opinion of you -.-
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