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Post by zeth on Sept 17, 2012 17:45:21 GMT -5
^ after reading this, Its pretty plainly obvious you have -no clue- on how or what you really are doing. I don't usually post very often here and let alone be extremely blunt on anyone's creativity but this is ridiculous. Not to mention lying to people here in the community about what your doing is not helping your cause. A lot of people around Glitchkill and the GCN have been hacking Zelda for years and know how things work and what can be done. So when you say something like this it makes people just facepalm that you would think you can just fool people so easily. Anyone can talk up about what they are going to do and I have personally seen A LOT of people do just that for projects then when it comes down it, cannot back up their claims. You claim so much changes and yet all can be seen is just texture replacement via rice video, that is all. You've acted like all you have is limitations on what you can do despite all the tools currently out there to make really great mods and making new dungeons, areas, etc so easy and yet nothing. This is something I sent you a message about when we locked your thread on the GCN after the TOS violation, I gave you a constructive referal which was to look into tutorials on how to make textures, and to do some hacking. Actually look into making custom maps and structure what you are doing. But its yet ignored, as punk has said, you are all over and the project a mess, there is no real direction. Not trying to be mean, but sometimes it has to be said bluntly, "Try taking people's constructive criticism to heart and actually do something about it instead of getting butthurt and just quit/renaming the project" Again, not trying to sound mean but when people say they don't like something or that this isn't making sense, you just give up, quit the project and rename it something else but overall is the same thing. So here is my advice, take it or leave it, Stop the project entirely, take some time(and I mean more then a few hours) and actually do tutorials on texture work, practice and start taking into consideration on how to structure your project. Take time to learn how to actually hack OOT and when focusing on your project, keep it to one rom please (DB released a tutorial on how to disable DEBUGGING OPTIONS). Learn how to do 3D modeling(Sketchup is really easy to pick up and its free) and try to find some team members to work with on a project not just you but everyone can enjoy. Take into consideration with the community and team members on what a good story and direction. None of the Zelda hackers got into it just overnight, they took time to learn how to do this and experimented over the course of months and even years. The last thing I have to say, just stop the lying, don't promise stuff you cannot do or that is out of your abilities. Cubington, Like everyone else, you have a lot of potential to do a great mod, just actually take the time to show that potential.
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Post by sakura on Sept 17, 2012 18:00:11 GMT -5
It's alright, seems everyone's lining up to tell me the same thing. I think I'm just going to stop, I'm tired of all the flaming. Nobody's said anything good about it thus far. I've refrained from saying hardly anything about this project so far, but I think this is a good point to say what's been on my mind. Basically I've watched it go through three major changes, and all of them have had the same issues. - You have shown nothing but texture edits done through a high-res texture plugin. While you might have other things planned, we can only go off what you've actually shown. So far that has been limited to texture edits that have no cohesiveness. They're don't fit together with themselves, and that's what makes it all appear so haphazard. Going with your Alice in Wonderland incarnation, you had both Tinkerbell and Spiderman, saying that Wonderland was something of a hub world for other worlds. This in itself isn't in the spirit of the original Wonderland at all, as it was presented in the books. It didn't make any sense. It would be like making a mod where you had a technologically advanced underwater city and then just stuck the name Mushroom Kingdom on it. It feels wrong and makes no sense. - The textures are pretty low quality. Besides not fitting together, many of them have issues. You can claim otherwise all you want, but it's very obvious which ones you've made personally, and which ones you've taken from various other sources. Now this is fine in itself, everyone starts somewhere. If you keep practicing making your own textures, you will improve and get closer to the level of quality that you want. - There was (?) no running theme. You replaced Tinkerbell with Kirby, and changed the Kokiri Forest into a beach. There was no reason behind the changes, and again, they just didn't fit well with each other. Not to say that you can't have various series come together in a cohesive way, look at Super Smash Brother Brawl's Subspace Emmisary, or even better, Kingdom Hearts. The thing is that to pull it off, you have to stay true to the original work at the same time. The characters already exist, you're just putting them in an unfamiliar situation. You really have to ask yourself how and why this would end up happening, and how they would reasonably react to avoid it feeling just thrown together. I don't think this point applies to much to the most recent version of your project, which brings me to my next and probably biggest point. - Your concepts were pulled out of nowhere and quite frankly don't mesh well with OoT's engine, or even come off as anything that people would want to see in the first place. For example, you were going to change Jabu Jabu's belly into Ruto's womb simply because you couldn't think of anything else to do with it. If that's the case, why are you even making this mod? For recognition? That's an incredibly poor reason and will reflect in your work, which it has. Naked Great Fairy because you weren't getting enough interest? Come on now, you asked how the Ura Team does it, and it's because we're making the mod that we want to play ourselves. If you're making something just because you can't think of anything better but still want people to like your project, well I'm sorry, this is how it turns out. That's really the best and most impartial advice I can give you. Please by all means try again, but for the right reasons. Not for internet fame, but because you would be making something that you can be proud of and that you'd like to play yourself.
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Post by cubington on Sept 17, 2012 19:39:38 GMT -5
I did not lie Zeth, I said I was working on the map. It's not finished yet. I just re-texture the maps before editing them. I know what I'm talking about and what I'm doing. I'm using all the same methods Flotonic instructed me to use when I worked for him. I've been doing this for 5 years, I had erased my original project though because my friends were telling me it was wrong for me to be hacking the game. (Original game was based off my fan-fiction titled Majora's Mask 2) The only lie I told was that I quit, I said that so that nobody would know I was continuing and leave me alone about it. I started this project with the intent on making a game that I want to play. If anyone else is interested in it too then they too can play.
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Post by Secant on Sept 17, 2012 19:53:38 GMT -5
Making a mod for yourself is all fine and dandy, but don't expect people to like your ideas in that case, and don't get upset when they offer constructive (or, really, even destructive) criticism. If you want to showcase a mod and have it be well-received, you have to consider the community you're showcasing it to. Not to mention, for those that do offer sound advice, blithely ignoring them isn't going to win you any favors either (much like you did with the above post).
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Post by zeth on Sept 17, 2012 20:49:23 GMT -5
Wow kid, you just can't stop and think. 5 years? So that would make you an 11, 12 years old hacking prodigy? I guess the lies continue cause he thinks we're all idiots apparently and what's the screenshot for? Is that suppose to prove anything, cause it doesn't. I still see higher resolution textures via Rice video in Kokiri forest, oh wait, you used uot to mod a couple vertices... I've tried to help kid as well as a few other members but I guess your ignorance is too big to see that, well best luck, I look forward to seeing how many times you rage quit and rename the project!
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Post by cubington on Sept 17, 2012 21:04:53 GMT -5
I just don't get it, I wanted to be friends with you guys at first but you've kinda been a bunch of jerks. Except Sakura, Arcaith, Sanguinetti, and Nyan Pony. I've really appreciated their words of advice and all that they've had to say.
Just that you, Naxylldritt, and ShadowFire have this attitude about you that (excuse me for this) really makes you come across as just being an ass, I just don't feel where you honestly care.
Life is painful enough as it is, and I don't really feel the need to constantly be put down and treated the way I've been treated, all over a stupid video game mod. All I ask is that if you truly care, to make it seem that you do, instead of covering it up with all this sarcasm and crap that you've been dishing out.
So please, I just wan't these conversations to be like we're talking among equal human beings and not like we're just talking to a photo of a mod we see on the screen.
We can handle issues like adults instead of children that constantly pick on one another.
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Post by zeth on Sept 17, 2012 21:29:10 GMT -5
Perhaps you should check uh post one on this page, I guess that shows how much I DON'T care right? Its frustrating when you take the time to help someone out but they just blatantly show ignorance to what you wrote, because it makes you feel like you wasted your time and that's how I feel right now. So if you get a smartass remark back, perhaps its what you're saying that deserved the answer you got. You know what, I give up, I'm tired of trying to get through to you kid, you think your in the right so much, fine! I'm done arguing and wasting my time on someone with ignorance of that level. Good day.
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Post by cubington on Sept 17, 2012 22:04:08 GMT -5
You were calling me a lier and putting me down with your first post. I'm sorry, it just seemed like you came here to harass me. I'm not the only one with ignorance here Zeth.
If you would've just told me your point without having to pick on me. Your message would've better gotten across.
As I said, life is a pain as it is. Last year my dog died, then one of my uncles, and then a girl I knew in my youth group. Also last year my home was foreclosed on. And this year my dad has had three strokes and can't work anymore.
I just don't like being talked to in that manner and having to deal with more stress than what I'm already dealing with here. I know part of why you talk to me the way you do is because of stress you're dealing with yourself, you just have to remember that you're not the only one dealing with it.
EDIT: And then you ban me when I finally mention how it's been hurtful of all the comments you've made towards me? I was trying to get you to see that I haven't been against you all this time, how I've just been hurt by things you've been saying and you go and do that?
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Post by zeth on Sept 17, 2012 22:38:08 GMT -5
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Post by cubington on Sept 17, 2012 22:41:52 GMT -5
That's not right. I did nothing to give you a reason to do that. Can't believe this is the guy I admired and looked up to when I was younger.
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Post by zeth on Sept 17, 2012 23:04:41 GMT -5
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Post by cubington on Sept 17, 2012 23:06:05 GMT -5
It's not showing anything in your post.
EDIT: Now it is. But it's not like I was gonna cause any trouble or anything. As you can see I didn't post another mod topic or anything.
And this is really showing me that you don't care at all.
EDIT 2: I know that it really shouldn't matter to me then. But my only concern is that I have a friend there that I talk to that I didn't want to lose. You shouldn't abuse your power like that, I hadn't violated terms of service this time.
It's not like I'm a hater or anything or mad at you. So you really had no reason.
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Post by zeth on Sept 17, 2012 23:33:28 GMT -5
First off, I didn't "abuse" my power, I enforced the rules and my authority over my website. What happens over here and on other sites I could careless, not my problem and doesn't influence my decision to do anything. Second you did break the TOS multiple times, was suspended then the first thing you post after being back from the suspension was a butthurt post to try to incite drama. So if you want to blame anyone, blame yourself for not listening. Last, your guilt trips aren't working. You fail to see how all of this could of been avoided if you actually chose to think and take into consideration before typing. You brought everything on yourself.
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Post by cubington on Sept 17, 2012 23:37:11 GMT -5
I posted that I quit after my suspension. That was a violation?
EDIT:At least do me a favor? Pass on a message for me to my friend so we can stay in touch. I'll PM the message to you
EDIT 2: Just forget it.. Life isn't worth it.
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Post by Dead on Sept 18, 2012 3:43:53 GMT -5
Wow, now you're going all EMO over having a tough life? fuck off, your dad has had three strokes, AT LEAST YOU HAVE ONE.
Ok, one of your friends died, I can relate to that, FOUR of mine died in a car accident and one is a vegetable.
Ok, your dog died, I can relate to that too I lost three cats, one when I was four, the other when I was seven and the last one six months ago.
Let's see... what else are you bithcing about? Ah, your uncle... I lost my great granmother and my father (just clarifying in case you didn't get the hint at the begining of this post).
Let's see, then I was abused in basically every way (except sexually) from the age of ten until the age of 16. and you have the nerve to bitch about a 'bad' life? Just go fuck yourself, and just some construcive/destructive/call-it-whatever-the-fuck-you-want criticism you are being called a liar because:
a) All you have shown us some Rice Video texture edits and a few vertices moved around 2) You are 17 years old and you have (according to what you say) been modding since you were 5. I find that hard to believe 3) You say you can do things and that you have done so many things, but you don't have anything to back up your statements with.
Now, I am getting fucking tired of reading your posts, because you are obviously ignoring the help you get or you are to fucking stupid to understand.
I will give you this one last fucking advise and that is to stop being so motherfucking ignorant and EMO you fucking cunt.
and yes I broke rule no. 2 and 4, I also broke the unwritten rule regarding good language and etiquette (This means too many curse words and generally being REALLY rude) And guess what, I don't give a fuck. You NEED to hear this. Now, if you don't fucking smarten up, I can predict a ban in your near future, I can also predict that I will get warned/banned for this post, and guess what, it's worth it.
NOTE: This post ins't ranting over my life, I am just showing him that his life isn't so fucking bad. And yes, all things I listed here are real events, and they are only a selection of events from my life.
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